DOSE: T+ 0:00	20 mg	sublingual	Noopept
T+ 2:30	150 mg	oral	4-Fluoroamphetamine	(capsule)
T+ 7:00	50 mg	oral	4-Fluoroamphetamine	(capsule)

BODY WEIGHT:

74 kg

T+ 0:00 - I took 20mg noopept before heading out sublingual
T+ 2:30 - Took 150mg 4-fa
T+ 3:00 - Massive side effects, cramping, head aches, tearing unable to move
T+ 4:00 - Side effects subside and regular stimulation sets in
T+ 7:00 - Dropped 50mg 4-fa booster with no unexpected side effects

I want to keep this brief in case anyone is doing research on combining fluoroamphetamine and noopept/racetams:

Party night and heading about to head out.
Took 20mg noopept sublingual as it helps with alcohol-induced stupidity and has proven itself to be a good in these situations.

I also prepared 150mg of 4-Fa + a 50mg booster - both capped in a gelatin pill.

Dropping the 4-fa about 2.5 hours later was followed with the usual come-up after 30 min.

Then things went south:

A stinging pain in my brain/head followed by a feeling like my brain is cramping.
In short I was in pain feeling like my brain is getting overloaded.
My eyes started to tear, random yawning and an incredibly tense bodyload felt in every muscle followed.
Luckily I could sit/lie in a chair trying to hold it together and not draw too much attention to myself.
I had some earplugs with me that helped me concentrate and endure the situation I have found myself in.

After about an hour I felt reasonably fine again and 3 hours later dropping the 50mg booster was causing no issues either.

I had dropped 4-fa multiple times before, same dosage and a friend who was accompanying me had no issues himself so I am sure the noopept played a factor here.

Some months later I noticed the same potentiation effect with noopept+2-FA however due to the much lower dosage with no ill side effects.

I caution everyone to reduce their dosage accordingly and do a test run if planning to combine those substances. In my experience the potentiation is definitely there and can be quite overwhelming. I assume similiar issues could happen when combining MDMA with noopept, confirmed by some experience reports I have read, talking about piracetam potentiating MDMA.

Exp Year: 2014	ExpID: 104752
Gender: Male
Age at time of experience: 28
Published: Nov 7, 2015	Views: 12,661
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